FINSTER FAMILY

In memory of my uncle Chester Harold Finster who died May 24th, 2001, three days short of 95.
He was a WWII veteran and took part in the Normandy landing.



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Finster House Atzhauzen Church 
Finster Tavern and Village Church in Atzhausen Germany

The pictures above were taken on my 1998 trip to Europe. Atzhausen is still a small village with a few farmers while the rest of the villagers are commuters to the nearby cities. When I asked about the Finsters, a local took me to see a couple of women who seemed to be in their ninties. One of them got up and hobbled slowly into the square on her canes, and shook a cane at the house above left, indicating that it was the Finster house. Considering that the Finsters left in 1835, I found this amazing. The information that follows was supplied to me by my cousin, Allen Weiss.

The birthplace of Frederick and Leonard Finster was a little village in Bavaria thirty six miles from Wurzberg. It was near Kleilonkine and not far from Kitzengen which was the home of their mother when married to Herr Lindner. Artzhausen was a village of farmers. It consisted of a tavern, a blacksmith shop, and tailor shop. These were built around an open square in the center of which was the village church. Leonard was born in the tavern which was owned by George Finster, his father. He afterward rented this building to the people who owned the house across the square. The Finster family moved into the house and lived there until 1835 when the tavern was sold and the money used to come to America. Leonard tells how he sold his sister Dorothy and the Tavern for a krantzer, for a penny.

Atzhauzen Map

When four years old, he went to see the Miller at Frieburg. The miller asked "When are you going to America?" "When we sell the tavern." "I'll buy the tavern" said the Miller, "but I must have Dorothy to keep it." Leonard agreed that Dorothy should be included in the sale, received his kreutzer in payment and went home rejoicing, telling his mother they would start for America tomorrow as he had sold the tavern.

Mary Margaret Elizabeth Giger married Lindner at Kitzengen. The children of this marriage were:

Philip Lindner
Dorothy Lindner
John Casper Lindner

Lindner deserted his wife and she afterward married George Finster. Leonard bases his statement of desertion on a conversation with Dorothy in Detroit. Dorothy and Leonard went to visit Philip, and Dorothy told Leonard that she never owned (acknowledged) her father as he had deserted her mother, so she took the name Finster.

The Children of George and Mary Finster were:

Paul - died in infancy
George Finster
John Casper Finster
Frederick Wolfgang Finster - born Apr. 3, 1829
John Leonard Finster - born Aug 7, 1831
Anna Barbara Finster who died on board ship four days after sailing in 1835.

George Finster Sr. died on a farm near Lake St. Clair in Canada, in 1838,

Mary Finster, his wife, died in march, 1865 at the home of her daughter, Dorothy Huebner, seven miles from Wayne Mich.

Leonard visited Detroit in August 1912, and on his eightieth birthday gave the following recollections of the journey from the Fatherland.


Leonard Finster's Account of The trip to Canada

After selling the tavern the Father and Mother with seven children started for America. They came to a place on the journey where on top of a mountain was Luther's Church, and cut in the rock beside the roadway was the name of "Dr. Martin Luther" in gold letters.

They stopped at a place where sugar water of was made. Here was a splendid spring of after of which they all drank. The children ate of the sugar which they learned was made from beats, when they asked the workmen why they did not eat too, they said, "If you knew how the sugar was made white, you would not eat it either." Then they learned that blood was mixed with it to purify it. They passed a mountain with Grapes growing on the side of it.

He remembers the City of Frankfert on the River Maine. Here he saw a company of orphan boys, cared for by the government, drilling and training for officers in the army. There was also band music.

They saw English troops at Hanover. At Bremen they saw their first steamship, also their first cigar. Here they took a two masted sailing ship down the river Weser to the North Sea. He remembers hearing the sailors singing out the measurements of the depth of the water. When it reached four feet, they dripped anchor, for the tide was running out. Soon the river was dry, and George Finster with another man left the ship and walked on the bottom of the river to shore. After reaching Bremen-Haven on the North Sea, they took a ship to America.

The vessel was owned in America, but had a German crew. The third day out, they passed England - saw the lights on the shore at night. The fourth day out, occurred the tragedy of the voyage. The father had just received his portion of whiskey, which was daily delt out to the passengers. Little Anna aged two years, saw her father drink from the spouted kettle and asked for some. The father playfully put the spout to her lips and she drank. In three hours she was dead and the disconsolate mother had to see her child burried at sea.

The ship made the trip from Bremen to New York in six weeks and three days - -one of the shortest trips on record. A flying fish fell into the ship on way.

A passenger steamer towing a flour boat took them from New York to Albany in three days. They took two weeks going from Albany to Buffalo on a canal boat towed as fast as the horses could walk. The U.S. mail was carried by canal packet as fast as four horses could trot. They blew a horn and the towline was dropped to let the mail pass.

They passed Lockport where they were carried over the mountain by many locks. On reaching Buffalo, they took a steamer for Detroit stopping at every wood pile for fuel. One week after leaving Buffalo they landed at the foot of Randolf St. in Detroit. They stayed three weeks at the corner of Brush and Fort streets, opposite the Ferry seed store, they called the Michigan Garden. They could see the U.S. flag at the Barracks at the corner of Russel street and Gratiot ave.

Forests were in full view. George Finster said the Bible told us to honor the King, and as there was no king here, he thought this was a Godless country, and so he went to Canada.

He settled on the middle road which had just been surveyed.

It was on the river Roscomb six miles from Lake St. Clair and twenty one miles from Windsor. Here he took out a homestead of 100 acres and became a British subject. It took five years to perfect a title but he died before that time in 1838, The mother lived here until 1853 when the farm was sold by George Finster for $350. The family then moved to Detroit and afterward to Cleveland. The mother died in march 1865, the same week Lincoln was inaugurated. She was then living with her daughter Dorothy Huebner seven miles from Wayne, Michigan.

In 1840 Frederick Finster, then eleven years of age worked in Detroit. In 1844 he worked for George Bros. On the west side of Woodward ave., back of J.L. Kings clothing store. In the same years, 1845 he went to New York and was employed on Chatam st. in a Jewish clothing store. He tired of New York and came back to Detroit. He worked on the Lakes as a waiter on the Great Wester, with Capt. Walker of Buffalo for two seasons. When Michigan sent out the "Mayflower", he was employed on her as a waiter and berth-maker. He also worked on the steamer "Atlantic."

At the end of the season of 1849 he left the lakes and began the study of medicine in the office of Dr. Ellis. The acquaintance was begun through their mutual interest in the New Jerusalem Church. Fredeick's family had been German Lutherns, but he did not attend services anywhere. One day walking Jefferson ave. Opposite the Michigan Exchange, he saw a sign "New Jerusalem Church," and remarked, "Another religious humbug." A store had been rented for church purposes, and curiosity led him in. He was struck with the teaching, continued to attend and soon joined. His acquaintance here with Dr. Ellis and S.B. Thayer resulted in his beginning the study of medicine in their office. He remained in the office four years, the partnership of "Thayer and Turel" being formed. He went from their office to the Michigan University in 1853. He graduated in 1855 from the Homeopathic College in Cleveland.


Dr. Frederick Finster
Dr. Frederick Finster

Dr. Frederick Finster. Born April 3, 1826-? in Atzhausen, Bavaria. Died March 21, 1885. Dr. Finster was probably the first homeopathic physician to practice in St. Clair county. He was a German, having born born in Bavaria. When he was six years old, his father emigrated with his family to America so that his sons, as they grow up, might evade compulsory service in the German army.
The family settled on a farm near Windsor, Ontario, but in a short time the father died. A little later the boy was taken into the family of a Mr. Remington, living in Detroit, who aided him in getting a common school education. Subsequent Dr. E. R. Ellis, then living in New York City, inspired the then young man with a desire to study medicine, and generously furnished him the loans to attend a course of lectures at a medical school of the University of Michigan in 1853-4, and a later course at the Homeopathic Medical College at Cleveland, Ohio (1854-55), where he graduated in the latter year.
The loan for pursuing the study of medicine was afterward repaid in full. Prior to attending the above medical schools, Dr. Finster had studied medicine in the office of Drs. John Ellis and S. B. Thayer in Detroit. In 1855 he formed a co-partnership with Dr. E. H. Drake, of Detroit with whom he was associated for two years. In 1857 he came to Port Huron, where he practiced medicine for the rest of his life. He died in 1885.
Dr. Finster was a man of slight build. An air of gentleness and quietness always seemed to surround him. He was endeared to his patients and well he should have been, for the charges for his medical services were so small that they amounted largely to gratuities. He believed in giving freely to others of his life and talents, but the resulting gain to his patients meant an uncalled for sacrifice on his part, for it was attended with a lack of provision for his own later days and the future welfare and comfort of his family.
His loving generous spirit blurred that foresight which looks out for the future, yet, perhaps his ways were wiser in the onward march toward "ultimate good." Although Dr. Finster embraced the "minute dose" system of practice in medicine, he did not hesitate to use the so-called "heroic" doses when occasion required. An incident will illustrate: A gentleman suffering from tialarial poisoning met an "old-school" physician on the street and asked what he would advise him to do. The physician's answer was: "'Take two two-grain pills of quinine three times a day." Later, meeting Dr. Finster - the apostle of snail doses - he wished his opinion. He adriscd: "Take 3 three-grain pills of quinine three times a day." Although Dr. Finstor belonged to a school of medicine looked upon at that time with disfavor by the large majority of physicians, he was highly respected by all his confreres.

Dr. Frederick Finster had six children:

Alice Finster, born 1860.

Edward Finster (1862-1892).

Frederick Ellis Finster (1865-1912). married 1899 Julia Hoffnan, born 1860.

        Her son:
         Ellis Finster, born 1902, living Detroit, Michigan.

Nancy Edith Finster, born 1868, Port Huron, Michigan.

Arthur Ray Finster, born 1874, married Barbara Morrison, 1909, at Hancock, Michigan.



Descendants of Arthur Ray "Art" Finster

......... Andrew Westbrook Finster 1910 - 1930
......... Georgina Ross Finster 1912 - 1992
.............+Alvin Lester "Al" Weiss 1894 - 1975
....................Roger Leslie Weiss 1939 -
....................+Fern Marie Swanson 1939 -
....................Lyle Carolyn "Carolyn" Weiss 1942 - 1976
....................+James Earl "Jim" Woodard 1941 - 1973
...............................Cherie Lynn Woodard 1963 -
...............................Darrel Jay Rock 1956 -
...........................................Beate Lynn Rock 1982 -
...........................................Renata May Rock 1986 -
...............................Janice Marie Woodard 1965 -
...............................+James Deane "Jim" Dougherty 1956 -
...........................................Graham Deane Stafford Dougherty 1992 -
...................*2nd Husband of Lyle Carolyn "Carolyn" Weiss:
....................+Gale Karl Burkhalter
....................Alan Kimball Weiss 1951 -
....................+Gayle Ann Rathbun 1952 -

Chester Finster, born 1878, married Miranda Victoria Armitage.



CHESTER G FINSTER &
MIRANDA VICTORIA ARMITAGE



Chester G Finster and Chester G. with Miranda V. (Armitage) Finster

Son of Dr. Frederick Finster and Lydia Kimbal. His father Frederick died when he was seven. He was raised by his mother Lydia Kimbal and his Kimbal grandparents. As I understand it, the Kimbals had a hotel and Chester had to go fishing to supply fish for the restaurant. He also spoke of long church services that would last all day. He may have been religious but was not a church goer. If forced to, he would sit near the door so he could get out if it dragged on. Although the Kimbals were Methodists, Lydia remained a member of the Church of New Jeruselum which was based on the teaching of Emanual Swedenborg. Despite being a high school drop out, Chester G. continued his education by correspondence school and became a civil engineer and architect.

Letter to my sister Kay Jones Thyr on the family history from his son, Chester Harold Finster dated December 29, 1995.

"Your grandfather was a very fine man in many ways He was very inteligent and earned a State of Michigan Registration as a Civil Engineer and an Architect without going to college. He was God fearing, honest, trustworthy and true to his wife. In fact he taught Engineering and Architecture for an American College at night.

His sister, Nancy Finster (Aunt Nann) in Port Heron earned her teaching certificate in some four years at the Michigan Teachers College at Ypsilanti, Michigan.
He also learned much of the background of Engineering and Architecture from Albert Kahn, Architectural and Engineering Company in Detroit.

He arrived in their offices in Detroit when the big automobile companies and factory business was booming. They designed some twenty new automobile factory buildings in Detroit in two years. The truth of the matter is that Albert Kahn and his brother were Russian Engineers who had arrived in Detroit when the manufacturing of trucks and automobiles was being born in Detroit.

Dad moved up in the ranks very rapidly. He was always an excellent Civil Engineer and later worked in Flint for General Motors in the Buick Motor Company. Dad was a natural engineer.

He was also very religious and believed that Providence would take care of him as long as he lived a truely honest life, a good life and one fair with his fellow men.
The big depression began in the early days of 1929. Dad closed his Engineering and Architectural office in Flint in the early days of June 1929. The times were tough at that time in the History of the United States.

In the summer of 1930, he approached Albert Kahn in Detroit. Albert kahn had received a job with the Russian Government. (Their first Five Year Plan was an attempt to bring their nation's business of manufacturing automobiles and trucks up to the standards of those in America.) to establish an engineering and archtectural office in Moscow.

Dad went to Russia with some six to eight old employees of Albert Kahn from the Detroit office. Dad Stayed with the office in Moscow for six months rather than five years and came home. He was being paid at the time $5,000 a year, which was like a gold mine in the United States. Dad didn't like the working conditions. he had to wear heavy clothes and to work with gloves on. The air temperature was frosty in the office.

He put me through a year's college in the year 1930-31 with his wages from Russia. I have had great respect for my father's knowledge and ability in architecture and engineering.

The years 1930-1933 were tough ones for every one in the United States. I worked on farms for a dollar a day. I enlisted in the Civilian Conservation Corps and was First Sergeant of the 683rd C.C.C. regiment, State of Michigan from May 1933 to May 1934 and that kept the bread on the table at home. This was a Michigan regiment to protect the trees that lived upon the state's property - - primarily in the northern part of the lower peninsula. Later on, in 1942, I joined the United States CCC 333rd U.S. Regiment

Dad opened his office again in 1934. I worked at the Dunbar Forest Experimental Station in the Upper Pennisula of Michigan for a year and then went back in the fall of 1935 to get my engineering degree and received my degree in the Spring of 1936.
Mr. Putnam Roberts, Superintendent of the 27 square miles of Forest at Dunbar told me that if I would go back to college and get my Engineering Degree that he would see that Michigan State College would give me enough credits in the Nursery to carry me through to my Senior. I did.

Dad and I paid off the mortgage on the Davidson home during 1936 and '37 and 1928. Dorothy and I were going to put Bety through now that we were both through with college. We were both through school and we wanted to help her.

Betty never finished her first term. Margaret and I were married in 1939. Betty had problems. This hurt our Mother. Dad gave Betty $2,000.00 to go to California. She came back broke. Mother said that the $2,000.00 was all that she and Dad had and that Mother had collected the bank money. That amount would equal $20,000.00 today (1995).

Dad sold the Davison home and purchased a new home in Flint. He then went to Bermuda and died. Both Dorothy and I told Dad that he was not doing the right thing. Dorothy and I did not want the old home. We worked to free the home in Davison for our parents and Betty and wanted to free the home for Betty and our parents."


I could not help but feel that both my mother Dorothy and her brother Harold harbored some resentment towards their father for his leaving his contract in Russia. It did put the family in a bad financial way and made finishing their schooling more difficult. They never came right out and said it, but it was there.

Grandfather Finster came to live with us for a few years when I was around ten, before he left for Bermuda. There are several things that may have explained his desire to leave Russia. Most important I believe that he had gotten into trouble there. He had gotten thrown into the dungeon in the Kremlin for punching out a Russian cop. If someone from the British counsel had not withnessed it, he probably would not have gotten out.

When I asked him why he hit the Russian policeman, he said that he had pushed him off the sidewalk. This was the old Stalin Soviet Government where they did not take things lightly. People could and often did disappear. He didn't like the Soviets and did not like drafting with his gloves on when you could see the steam from your breath. He swore he had seen dog carcuses being brought into restaurants. In short, he was not a happy camper. I believe part of it was depression. Mom said he just sat around for a few years after getting back from Russia. I don't think he was capable of finishing the contract.

I thought he was the greatest and used to be his shadow. Of course he had quite a vocabulary and would use it when working a home repair projects. At those times us kids would be dispatched to the other end of the house. I don't remember how long he stayed, but I think I was eleven or twelve when he left for Bermuda. He had gotten a contract to remodel a hotel there moved there with my aunt Betty and her daughter Alice. He liked it there and begain dating again. However this time it was a married woman with a jealous husband. The man would watch for letters from Finster, so grampa reversed the letters of his name and wrote her as Retsnif. He died in 1956 and is buried there.



Betty, Harold, Dorothy at Soo locks about 1933

Years later when I was in college, I met his cousin Ellis. He couldn't get over how much I resembled grampa Finster. He said the way I looked, carried my self, talked and gestered were all Chester Finster. He called me Chet junior. My cousin Alice refuses to talk to me on the phone because I sound too much like him.

Descendants of George Finster
Numbers denote generations from George Finster

1 George Finster
. +Mary Margaret Elizabeth Giger
2 Paul Finster
2 George Finster
2 Frederick Finster 1829 - 1858
.. +Lydia Kimbal 1839 - 1911
. 3 Chester Finster
.... +[1] Minerva Victoria Armitage - 1856
.. 4 Chester Harold Finster
.. 4 Betty Finster
..... +Gustof Sontag
.... 5 Alice Sontag
....... +Garcia
.. 4 Julia Dorothy Finster 1907 - 1983
..... +William Cornelius Jones 1889 - 1965
.... 5 Kay Janet Dorothy Jones 1938 -
....... +Roger Wayne Thyr 1935 -
...... 6 Brian Donald Thyr 1965 -
......... +Danita Jo Carlson 1966 -
....... 7 Nicholas James Thyr 1994 -
....... 7 Ingrid Caroline Thyr 1997 -
...... 6 Lisa Karen Thyr 1962 -
......... +Scott James Barker 1962 -
....... 7 Charles James Barker 1985 -
....... 7 Natalia Lynn Barker 1987 -
.... 5 Cornel Robert Finster Jones 1939 -
....... +Merryalice Maki
...... 6 David Jones
........ +Ann Summerville Kelly 1964 -
....... 7 Seamus Dylan Summerville Jones 1995 -
....... 7 Isobel Alina Kelly Jones 1998 -
...... 6 Corey Jones
...... 6 Sarah Kay Louise Jones 1969 -
....... + John William Clapp 1960 -
....... 7 Ashley Elizabeth Clapp - 2000
.... 5 Dale Chester Westbrook Jones 1940 -
....... +Jeanne Adelle Finkelstein 1936 - 1985
...... 6 Tod Simeon Hayward Jones 1976 -
...... 6 Terrence Flom Jones 1972 -
........ + Autumn Hickenbotham
.......... 7 Iryck Jones (adopted) May 12, 1996
.......... 7 Zayde Tatania Jones 2001 -
.2 John Leonard Finster 1831 -


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Last Updated on Feb. 15, 2004 by Dale C. Jones